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Ordinance taking aim at underage drinking
sobeit
Thursday, March 11, 2010: 10:43 pm

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Well said johnb. I fear this ordinance would be a mistake and do more harm than good. Our city and county officials need to think long and hard on this one.
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Ordinance taking aim at underage drinking
Johnb
Thursday, March 11, 2010: 9:30 pm

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Teen drinking is very hard to avoid. Most of the parents who are "social hosts" are trying to avoid their teens from drinking and driving, or making sure they know what their teens are doing and where. If you ask me I think it is better to harbor a safe drinking atmosphere where a responsible adult can monitor behavior and alcohol consumption. Ask your self one question if your teen was drinking at a party would you rather have a responsible adult present or not? This new ordinance will not stop teen drinking, nor will it make our community safer. I do not think teen drinking is okay but I am not going to fool myself into thinking that my teen, if I had one is going to be alcohol free.
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A kitten’s life worth saving
Saramee
Thursday, March 11, 2010: 3:55 pm

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God gave you the knowledge and the means to save the life of one of his creatures I believe, with all my heart, that people who are kind to animals will have a special place in Heaven. God bless you and yours, Jean, for saving the life of little Pierre.
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Sheriff returns excess fees to court
rosebud5
Thursday, March 11, 2010: 12:52 pm

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Wouldn't this be great if the residents could get WMU & the city government to do the same!?!
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A kitten’s life worth saving
MagFost
Thursday, March 11, 2010: 11:58 am

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Jean,

I believe, we are not "playing God. " I believe God knew exactly what He was doing when He brought Pierre and Bella to you and Katy. He knew that you both would give it your best effort in prayer, love and care to keep that little life sustained. You are one of God's many blessings on this earth.
Love you,
Maggie
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dhughes
Thursday, March 11, 2010: 9:47 am

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rhondas: Good! I'm glad they cooperated with you! Tough to make business plans around your kids bus schedule. I'm hoping things will get back to "normal" soon. Think the County will replace my shocks and tires?? Whaa-ha-ha!! fat chance of that :)
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dhughes
Thursday, March 11, 2010: 9:44 am

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Horserider, I saw you go past on Sunday. I appreciate your input..it's another person's insight on a situation that can be frustrating. I noticed the County workers were out there until almost dark last night. They are trying, and that is appreciated. I just hope the darn creek doesn't make my drive in tonight miserable. ( or impossible!) Thanks again!
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Heat turned up on copper thieves
itsmedb55
Wednesday, March 10, 2010: 7:04 pm

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citizen the scrap yard here makes a copy of your d.l.# and they have cameras all over they can usually tell what they buy from most customers. they do fax a list to the police when asked.
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Heat turned up on copper thieves
citizen
Wednesday, March 10, 2010: 6:40 pm

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This may be done already, but why are not pictures and information taken at point of sale(scrap yard or where sold) and forwarded to law enforcement? there seems to me a limited amount of places this is sold ?I may be to uninformed about scrapers I guess, but it seems that they are the same people that do this on a regular basis (scrap)
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Prep Basketball: Mason County stuns Clark in 10th Region finals
twipert
Wednesday, March 10, 2010: 3:55 pm

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That is correct, in phase 1 there will be a gym for PE and have setting for 400-500. In phase 2 they would build a performance gym for games.
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Prep Basketball: Mason County stuns Clark in 10th Region finals
Horserider
Wednesday, March 10, 2010: 2:47 pm

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Is this correct? It was my understanding that there would be no new gym and the cards games would continue being held at GRC, if this is correct I sure hope they build it big enough to support the region. I'm sick of the fieldhouse, I would rather go back to NKU.
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Horserider
Wednesday, March 10, 2010: 2:38 pm

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Folks on Dry Fork Creek I feel for you. I and 2 friends were riding our horses down that rode this past Sunday, the good part about a horse, we were able to find a trail around the bridge down in the creek and then back up on the other side. Good luck to you and I too hope it's fixed for you all before all the rain starts hitting. Hang in there, John
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Dirty energy is expensive
lb1955
Wednesday, March 10, 2010: 12:38 pm

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Why do people refuse to mention that EKPC has 6 Landfill Gas generating plants and 170 MW of hydro power, not to mention the efficiency and weatherization programs they sponsor? It is great that the Horse Park is planning to build their first one (although I question their estimated energy savings). Maybe they should consult with EKPC, since the coop is already a leader in this field.
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Heart attack may have caused crash
chelsea1509
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 11:58 pm

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that was my papaw that passed away....i will never forget him and i love him with everything in me. kenny you will always be in my heart forever and always!

love, chelsea
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d.chesser
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 10:17 pm

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Im just reporting on what two long time employees of the Winchester Sun told me about a month ago, that the Sun is having financial problems and could go under in the fall 0f 2010.
If it does, it does and if it stays open, great !
You are wrong about me not posting before, it has just been quite awhile that I saw anything worthwhile posting about on this site.
I thought long and hard about not coming back here, but then said to myself, these ladies seem to be really good people at heart when not aggravated, so guess i'll be here for awhile.
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itsmedb55
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 9:07 pm

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yorkberry you are right i'm glad we don't have to hide behind all those user names. how does he keep track of who he is today or tommorrow. i am sure the winchester sun will be just fine. they have alot of good people there and the spirit of a great hometown newspaper . have a good one and i'm sure we will talk again soon.
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YORKBERRY
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 7:11 pm

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itsmedb55, d.chesser never showed up or had a word to say until after tellthetruth was gone. Remember, tellthetruth did this right after bigjohn disappeared. i commented to him that he was using the same words and names and typing style as bigjohn did and now we have found out that he was the same person. i highly suspect that he is trolling again already. if its him, he will show himself again before long. he also commented one time that he would never go away. we shall see, have a great evening and I PRAY THAT THE WINCHESTER SUN CONTINUES TO PROSPER!
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itsmedb55
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 6:57 pm

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hey dchesser,thought you weren't coming back to this site what happened?
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d.chesser
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 3:59 pm

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See if Bigjohn, tellthetruth or badjohn called someone a name he would be banned from this site.
Why doesnt the same rule go for these people calling others jerks and trolls?
This place is so communist, but guess soon from what Billy and Jerry told me the Winchester Sun will be going under like so many other newspapers.
Anyways, it want be that big of a loss.
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Prep Basketball: Mason County stuns Clark in 10th Region finals
d.chesser
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 3:54 pm

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The new GRCHS will have a better chance at hosting
the 10th region basketball championship games.
The court is going to be somewhat bigger and more
up to date lockers, concessions and seating.
Maybe then Clark County will finally have a chance of
some homecourt advantage for once.
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Prep Basketball: Mason County stuns Clark in 10th Region finals
phoneman
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 3:32 pm

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eddy, good comment. I agree that the tourney needs to be spread out to all the schools, big or small. 37 out of 40 years in one place is enough.
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Police and fire reports for March 9
itsmedb55
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 2:53 pm

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i am so glad the city did the right thing for the guitar guys. they are very good business people and are good for winchester. they rented from me when they first started out and i knew someday they would go far. i wish them luck in expanding their business.
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rhondas
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 2:04 pm

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Hey Donna!!! Hoping the bridge is fixed soon too!!! I did resolve my problem with the school bus. She's turning around at my uncle's house (Thank You Uncle Sonny). I understand your grief!!! So glad the 'jerks' account has been disabled!! And I don't blame you for not wanting to drive your new vehicle thru the creek. See you soon!!
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d.chesser
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 2:02 pm

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Then the so called managing editor call a person a troll?
You talk about nothing but rude!!!
I for one will not be coming back to this site again, its ridiculous !
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d.chesser
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 1:59 pm

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I hate to see everyone gang up on one person because he has a different opionion than others.
Is that against the law of this website ?
It takes all types to make this place we live on worthwhile.
Good luck Tellthetruth !
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Prep Basketball: Mason County stuns Clark in 10th Region finals
jwenova
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 1:07 pm

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Anyone have any idea why the power was out the other morning? I called to report it and the message said over 10,000 homes were out...seems we should see SOMETHING about it!
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Prep Basketball: Mason County stuns Clark in 10th Region finals
eddymeek
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 1:07 pm

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I am a 10th Region basketball fan who happens to be born and raised in Mason County. Of course I enjoy when our team wins, but I enjoy a good game no matter who is playing or where it is played. GRC was without a doubt the better team this year but that is why they go ahead and play the games anyway. It is not any of these kids fault that the game is played where it is. All of the blame goes to our money hungry school systems that care nothing more than how much we can make on these games. I for one don't care how big your gym is I think that it should be played somewhere different every year with every team required to take they're turn hosting. This includes the likes of St.Patrick, Deming,Paris,Nicholas, etc. The kids that are playing would probably have more fun in a smaller venue. I think sometimes we forget that this is what high school sports are for, the kids. I am a supporter of the 10th Region when it comes to State Tournament, you can come visit the 4th floor of the Radisson all next week and see. We have the whole floor plus and all the teams jerseys hanging in our hospitality room. Three years ago when GRC was there, that was the jersey in the front. Like I said, let all the schools host it once every 16 years and then the kids wont have to listen to all of this and they can enjoy the moment because before you know it ,it's over and it's time for them to join the real world.
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Prep Basketball: Mason County stuns Clark in 10th Region finals
Cardsupporter
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 12:00 pm

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Eddy, sorry but I disagree. The 10th Region Boy's tourney has been played at Mason County 37 out of the last 40 years. I place some of the blame on the Clark County Schools administration. Fair is fair. No one deserves this kind of advantage. It is so unfortunate that we haven't pursued to be the host for the tourney. Some years we couldn't get enough votes, of course there hasn't been that many votes. Montgomery builds a gym, which still isn't as large as GRC'S, and somehow they get to host. Alot of it is just plain jealously because we are the largest school in the 10th region. We also have done a pitiful job of updating our facility to even have a chance to host. When the bleachers on the visitor's side started breaking down, we just tore them out and made a batting cage and storage, instead of fixing them. This has been the attitude around here for the last 40 plus years.. Fact is the tools are not in place for ANYONE to be successful, long term as the Coach at Clark County..
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itsmedb55
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 9:34 am

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thank you winchester sun editor we knew it was him all along. now we can have civil conversations.
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Prep Basketball: Mason County stuns Clark in 10th Region finals
eddymeek
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 9:28 am

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lets see phoneman last year it was northern ky. the year before it was Montgomery Co. and the outcome was the same. The game I watched last night was one of the better high school games I have seen in a long time regardless of the outcome. Hats off to both teams. Don't take anything away from the kids on either team by crying about where the game is played.
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Prep Basketball: Mason County stuns Clark in 10th Region finals
phoneman
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 8:50 am

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How much longer is the 10th region going to let Mason have their home court advantage in the regional. This has been going on for over 30 years now, and it's proven to be a windfall for Mason county. You can't just keep letting a good team have home court advantage year after year in order to get to the state tourney 7 out of 10 years.
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dhughes
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 8:14 am

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Thank you Winchester Sun!!! I'm afraid he'll eventually find his way back, but Thanks to everyone that supported me and my right to comment on a bridge!! :)
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YORKBERRY
Tuesday, March 9, 2010: 7:47 am

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Thank you so much for proving us other readers and commentors right and trying to do something about it. I knew it all along. Now maybe we can read and comment in peace again. THANK YOU WINCHESTER SUN!
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Dirty energy is expensive
RMH
Monday, March 8, 2010: 11:30 pm

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I'm so glad the Sun published Mr. Edwards comments and generated this discussion. Many electric co-ops and for-profit utilities have realized that it costs less to save a kilowatt-hour of electricity than it does to produce one. Thus, rather than constantly investing in new generation capacity, many are now investing instead in efficiency and weatherization programs. Here's a fascinating article about a co-op in South Carolina that is moving forward with a plan to cut energy consumption 20% over the next 10 years through an aggressive program of energy efficiency and weatherization:

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/nov/01/in-state-electric-co-ops-plan-everyone-wins/

The plan would cost $800 million up front, but that would be paid off in about 8 years while at the same time reducing customers' energy bills. When one considers the avoided cost of a new power plant and a continuous fuel supply for that plant, the plan could save billions.

Wouldn't it be nice if EKPC started looking around the country for models like this?
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Sun Managing Editor
Monday, March 8, 2010: 10:27 pm

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tellthetruth is the same troll as Big John, Bad John, Big Bad John, etc. We have disabled his account several times and asked him to go away, but he won't.
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itsmedb55
Monday, March 8, 2010: 4:21 pm

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getoverit.......this all started because of a simple question on the bridge. most of us don't belong on topix. your statement was uncalled for.
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getoverit
Monday, March 8, 2010: 3:39 pm

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Why do you people talk about something to improve
our community or go back to topix
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getoverit
Monday, March 8, 2010: 3:37 pm

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dhughes said:
How long before the bridge is replaced? I now must drive through the creek to go to work. This is unacceptable!! There has to be a different solution. I understand the bridge is dangerous and needs to be replaced..but, how would you feel if you had to drive through a creek to go to work, or town?? When the creeks rise with Spring rains ( look at next weeks forecast! ) how will I earn a living? God forbid if we need a Life Squad or Fire truck. As it is the Post Office refuses to deliver our mail because it only affects "TWO HOMES"..well, that's all fine and good except I work from 7 to 5 in a different county and the Post Office is open 9 to 4:45!! Glad it's election time!!

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YORKBERRY
Monday, March 8, 2010: 1:15 pm

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I HOPE YOU GET FIXED TOO!
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tellthetruth
Monday, March 8, 2010: 1:10 pm

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Can you even afford a single wide zorkberry
or is your trailer an actual camper on the
back of a 1978 ford 100 truck ?
Shut up you twit !!!!
Im done with this matter, hope they fix "your"
bridge real soon!!!
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YORKBERRY
Monday, March 8, 2010: 12:22 pm

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oh excuse me, i didnt go back and reread all the old posts before i started typing!
and excuse you for reading bigjohns posts, because just like him, i am not the old
lady that lives in a junky old single wide and drives a 70something model pontiac!
i do sleep well, but not where you think i do, now go bother someone else. JERK
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dhughes
Monday, March 8, 2010: 10:31 am

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YORKBERRY, actually I'm a female. My name is Donna...no shame in my game. I'm not offeneded, have a good day.
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tellthetruth
Monday, March 8, 2010: 9:32 am

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Porkberry, just shows how much attention you pay,
the mans name is Dhughes, not Bhughes dummy !
The rudy go back to sleep?
You sleep well in your single wide trailer dont you ?
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YORKBERRY
Monday, March 8, 2010: 7:55 am

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itsmedb55, i hope they do too, but did you see how he tried to back track that name in his
next post. I am sure bhughes didnt have any trouble reading the article in the paper, its
just that it didnt help with his and his neighbors frustrations about what they were going
to have to do for the next week, month, or ever how long it will be before it gets fixed. and
just like bigjohn, he calls us bullies now, for defending someone else and not agreeing
with his opinions! I hope the bridge is done soon so everyone can get back to normal
and the rudy can go back to sleep.
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tellthetruth
Sunday, March 7, 2010: 9:52 pm

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Just quit crying cause the bridge is out and find
a new way to work until the bridge is repaired !!
If you think im David Bellamy then I guess I can
make you think im the man in the moon also ha.
Rude bullies, thats the trailer park trash ( you ) who
is been the rude mouthed one , i simply told the
boy what the paper article said about the alternate
road and he want go that way.
Ever hear of the saying "if theres a will, theres a way" ?
Think about that and get back to me, okay ?
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itsmedb55
Sunday, March 7, 2010: 6:35 pm

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well said yorkberry i feel like we have been down this road before. his employer must be real proud of him. hope someone there reads this site and see's what a good person he is.
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YORKBERRY
Sunday, March 7, 2010: 2:36 pm

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dhughes, he is a liar just like BIGJOHN was. Mr Bellamy or whoever you are, I dont care who you are and furthermore, I would never stoop so low as to come to your work and confront you about your stupid rude opinions. I bet Freeman Corp. will be real proud to have you as an employ now, I hope they read this crap you type. Rude BULLIES like you will always get what you deserve in the end! Funny thing, you picked up right where BIGJ0HN left off..........and I dont know how you think you know who I am or where I live, because you Sir, I do not know and have never heard of and I can assure you that I never want to. You are an embarrassment to our community! Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it! And this is the end of this subject and conversation with you from now on! Good bye and good ridence!
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dhughes
Sunday, March 7, 2010: 11:16 am

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Wow!! Sensitive today arent we?
Well, David the truth does come out...you don't live down here, and you don't drive this road EVERY day in your "Honda Civic"..you have a friend that hunts down here. I don't understand why you feel you have to attack someone, simply because they have an obstacle to access a road. I knew when I chose to live here I was living next to a creek...however, I also had a bridge that I could use to go to work!! I pay my taxes, I work and I'm entitled to have a road just as you are. Am I not? So why attack people and make all this an ugly thing? You don't use this road to go to work, you don't live down here, and you just want to be a mean spirited person. I'm done...you are exhausting, and I'm not accustomed to dealing with people like you. You don't know who am I am, you don't have an ounce of compassion for others so..You win dude. Congrats your the Butt-Hole award winner in the "Bridge Out" Debate. I'll not waste another minute on you.
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YORKBERRY
Saturday, March 6, 2010: 10:19 pm

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tellthetruth, you are bigjohn and you know it. you talk to people the exact same
way that he did and you call me the same names as he did! you are not fooling
anybody,,,,,,,,,there can only be one of you! bhughes, you are a neighbor to one
of my best friends and she emailed me today to thank me for my support after
reading these comments online. you and her are the ones who the bridge blocks
from going any other way but the creek. I hope it is fixed soon and all goes back
to normal. same thing that happened to bigjohn, needs to happen to tellthetruth!
This is not like topix.com or any of those other trashy sites where all the idiots of
the world can spew there ignorance, this site is for normal discussion between
normal adults about subjects that concern our life and community.
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dhughes
Saturday, March 6, 2010: 8:40 pm

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tellthetruth: I own a boat..but, you would know that if you knew me. MY point!! Thanks for the advice, would of never thought to take a boat into a rain swollen creek... is that part of your red neck games? Whaa-ha-ha!!
itsmedb55 and YORKBERRY: Thanks for the support..it's obvious what type of person I've been dealing with. I suppose if he gets his thrill's being a jerk with me, he'll leave someone else alone!! :)
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tellthetruth
Saturday, March 6, 2010: 7:19 pm

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Dorkberry, I was talking to Dhughes about the creek you imbecile !!
We know you live in a mobile home trailer park.
If you cant drive through the creek, guess you better get you a boat Dhughes !!
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Dirty energy is expensive
truthtopower
Saturday, March 6, 2010: 3:14 pm

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Thanks to the Winchester Sun for publishing this important piece from Billy Edwards. I was in the room when he spoke at a recent air permit hearing about this proposed plant. I don't know Mr. Edwards, but I sure thought he was effective. I remember he talked about how long he has known and respected many of the people who are involved with the co-op. He explained that his opposition to this plant isn't personal, but based on the fact that going forward with this plant will cause harm to human health, the environment, rate-payers, and the co-op itself. In the end he didn't ask the KY Division of Air Quality to deny the permit in question. Instead, he looked right at the EKPC management in the audience and asked them to pull the plug on this project and pursue a cheaper and cleaner set of energy solutions. That took courage. I hope they remember that moment as well as I do, and that they were listening.
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Prep Basketball: Lady Cards win 10th Region title
fatcat
Saturday, March 6, 2010: 3:08 pm

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Way to go Lady Cardinals. Very proud of all of you. A fan
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Dirty energy is expensive
EW
Saturday, March 6, 2010: 1:07 pm

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Despite bootlegger's observations, Mr. Edwards' "700 word article" remains unconvincing. It's easy to suggest others take the risk when you can walk away and blame them for their mistakes. He has done little more than suggest what is wrong with existing resources in KY without providing any substantial detail about what will work. As I said before: put your money where your mouth is (become a net-zero consumer) if you want to be taken seriously by industries that spend years in development before commiting these types of resources. I doubt you and Mr. Edwards' will be at the forefront of pointing out those areas where bleeding-edge technology failed to work effectively and left the people who invested and believed in it with unreliable and overpriced power. If I could believe you'd be objective enough to follow that course, I'd believe more in your cause. I think what most of this comes down to is NIMBY under the guise of environmental responsibility.

Further, I never said I had "no problem" with tried and true technologies, but thanks for the distortion. I simply stated that they are the most cost-effective and reliable at the moment. Having said that, another truth that is being conveniently overlooked is that renewables such as wind and solar (the most likely resources compatible with our region) vary considerably throughout the day and seasons. This means when those resources are unavailable, other resources must be available or power will be unavailable for consumer demand. I presume Bootlegger and Mr. Edwards have a unique environmentally-friendly and cost-effective solution for that issue too huh? HINT: Peaking units and energy purchases from external sources cost more than in-state conventional generation resources.

The technologies in development will remain in development until they exceed the capabilities of existing technology in cost, reliability, and longevity.
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Bootlegger
Saturday, March 6, 2010: 11:51 am

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The Winchester Sun shows some real courage with their willingness to report the concerns of their community and face the opprobrium of the Coal Industry. At least one media outlet takes its public mission seriously.

Regarding EW's well-written comment, the gist of his argument seems to be that Mr. Edwards wasn't thorough enough in the 700 words alloted to him by the newspaper. I think Mr. Edwards is quite convincing in the short space alloted to him.

EW also seems to have no problem with "tried and true technologies--dirty as they may be." But this is a contradiction. How can something so "dirty" that is incontrovertibly related to numerous health problem be considered "tried and true"? The only thing "tried" and "true" about coal burning is that we've tried it, and the truth is the pollution from mining and burning makes people sick increasing health care costs for everyone. The new technologies are still in development, but they will remain in development until we commit to them and make them our main energy sources. How else will they grow?
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YORKBERRY
Saturday, March 6, 2010: 10:59 am

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itmedb55, i know it sure was nice, it was like being in a nice neighborhood with really great neighbors til he came back. hopefully, he will move on again soon so things can get back to normal. Have a great day too, enjoy the sunshine. I think i will!!!
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itsmedb55
Saturday, March 6, 2010: 10:55 am

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hey yorkberry he's back ....... it sure was nice while the mouth of the south was quiet. have a good one.
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YORKBERRY
Saturday, March 6, 2010: 10:46 am

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dhughes,
see tellthetruths comment where he calls me a name and makes his nasty
comments. i knew it would happen and you and i both were right about him.
he does this every time i make a comment that is related to any comment
that he posts. he doesnt know me, dont know why he is chooses to be so
nasty. soooooo......BIGJOHN, i am not scared of water, dont live close to a
creek, however, i have friends in the area, sooo why dont you keep your mouth
shut and have some compassion every once in a while! nobody wants to read
you "stupid, rude and very unpopular opinions on here." why are you always
wanting to yank somebodies string for? get out in the sunshine, maybe it will
help you bee a nicer person!
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Cats don't want to share SEC title
Wheatgerm
Saturday, March 6, 2010: 8:33 am

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"Kentucky can win the title outright in the team’s regular-season finale against Florida Sunday."

No, Kentucky can win the title outright today! That's why I'm watching the South Carolina-Vandy game at 2 pm.
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tellthetruth
Friday, March 5, 2010: 11:10 pm

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Hey dogberry keep your mouth shut !
If you are scared of water guess you shouldve
thought of that before moving close to a creek !!!
WAAAAAHHHHHHH WWWAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
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Couple indicted on arson charge
tellthetruth
Friday, March 5, 2010: 11:06 pm

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Rodney and Rocky, dont drop the soap !!
Enjoy your time in prison !
Owen, hope you get what you deserve too !
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Dirty energy is expensive
EW
Friday, March 5, 2010: 10:26 pm

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I find several of Mr. Edwards' claims rather interesting: "Nationwide, more than 100 proposed coal-fired power plants have been abandoned in the past two years due to skyrocketing construction costs, the anticipated costs of new regulations, rising fuel costs and reduced demand for electricity."

Simultaneously, the Sierra Club (http://action.sierraclub.org/site/MessageViewer?em_id=115741.0) boasts "For the past six years the Sierra Club and its allies have been running a hard-hitting campaign to expose the dirty truth about coal. Tremendous grassroots pressure, rising costs, and upcoming federal carbon regulations all contributed to the demise of the 100 plants."

It would seem to be either a very convenient coincidence, or highly probable that Mr. Edwards is using statistics provided by the Sierra Club while omitting the fact that the Sierra Club had some direct intervention in stopping the construction of some of those 100 plants. That omission serves to mislead the reader by making it appear that utilities decided—without outside intervention or political pressure—to abandon those plants for the reasons he did bother to list.

Perhaps equally interesting is Mr. Edwards’ proposal: “Investments in energy efficiency, weatherization, renewables and natural gas can save rate payers money while putting people back to work and providing energy.” Who specifically is Mr. Edwards suggesting should be the beneficiary of these energy efficiency and weatherization incentives? Would it be the same individuals who used the bulk of their home loans to obtain or construct the most elegant or sizeable residences they could, while using the minimum energy efficiency standards required? If so, that would seem a little self-serving would it not?

Since Mr. Edwards seems to believe he has a detailed understanding of EKPC’s finances and the intimate workings of the power industry, it should present little difficulty for him to provide a detailed cost-benefit analysis for these “Investments in energy efficiency, weatherization, renewables and natural gas” concepts, and the specific technologies he proposes to accomplish this. There are after all, numerous “renewables” including solar, wind, geothermal, biomass, tidal, and hydro to name a few. If—as he seems to believe—he is correct, he would have electric utilities from across the nation beating a path to his door.

Consistent with most speech writers with intent to get people “fired up” without letting facts get in the way, Mr. Edwards makes many claims, but provides little factual detail to substantiate his claims. Sure, some numbers are thrown in for good measure, or possibly to imply thorough statistical scrutiny, but nothing that actually backs up the core claim: that EKPC could provide the same amount of power (approximately 250 MW) using renewable generation and voluntary energy efficiency programs for the same or less money and equivalent reliability than the proposed coal plant.

Make no mistake, renewable energy is maturing, but there remain (and will for some time) many technical and financial hurdles that must be overcome before those technologies achieve the same level of cost effectiveness and reliability that currently exists with tried-and-true technologies—dirty as they may be.

The bottom line is that no one is stopping you from becoming a zero-net energy user by investing your own time, money, and resources at your residence to divest yourself of “the grid”. If you want to encourage energy efficiency and renewability, consider putting your money where your mouth is Mr. Edwards.
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Bridge out
itsmedb55
Friday, March 5, 2010: 8:28 pm

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dhughes just let the "mouth of the south" ramble on. you can't win or reason with him. good luck wirh your problem. hope its done very soon...
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dhughes
Friday, March 5, 2010: 6:15 pm

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YORKBERRY, Thanks for the support. You are 100% right...I need to just let the "rude dude" ramble on. I know he can't possibly understand our situation living on this road. For the most part, the County has been pretty decent with us, it just get's frustrating. I'm hoping for a speedy repair. Thanks again.
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YORKBERRY
Friday, March 5, 2010: 5:29 pm

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dhughes and rhondas,
I really feel for you guys, I have drove thru that creek before and I hope I never have to again.
I hope the bridge is fixed soon before the spring showers come and the water is up all the
time. As for tellthetruch, you hit the nail on the head. He or she, sounds like a very insensitive
he, or BIGJOHN, whichever, doesnt matter, he is always trying to get something stirred up and
get people going when they are already upset about something. The best thing to do is ignore
him, because as RON WHITE says "you cant fix stupid!" I have yet to understand what makes
people that way.........must just be plain rudeness.......definitely something i am not. Good luck,
hope its ready within the week.
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Conkwright wins District Governor’s Cup
winchestermom
Friday, March 5, 2010: 4:22 pm

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That's great. Congrats to Conkwright. What about the elementary school Governor's Cup which was held at Strode Station Elementary on February 27?? I have been looking for those results.
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dhughes
Friday, March 5, 2010: 3:03 pm

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Really? Then you would know what the heck your talking about...and obviously you don't. I know everyone that lives on my road and you don't drive through that creek everyday..impossible!! You can NOT drive across Dry Fork Creek and get onto White Conkwright with the bridge out. But hey, Thanks for the encouragement!! You can tell what kind of a guy you are :)
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tellthetruth
Friday, March 5, 2010: 11:11 am

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Sounds like you just want to complain about something !!!
I hope its months before the bridge is done !!
I drive that road every day and have no problem going through
the creek in my honda civic, quit whining and go to work.
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rhondas
Friday, March 5, 2010: 8:22 am

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I agree DHughes. It's crazy. I live on Dry Fork Creek Rd. The bridge out has caused major problems for me. The school bus drives past the bridge to turn around and pick up my children for school. I've been told I must drive them to White Conkwright. I work from home and have no reason to leave my home during the day unless by choice. I now must make a trip to Trapp Ele at 7:00am and come back to pick up my Jr High and High school kids and take them to town. I work from home, during the day I must leave work drive to White Conkright at 3pm to pick up my Trapp student, then leave again at 4:25pm to pick up my other two. How inconvenient!!!! I will let you know they were out yesterday working on the bridge and are hoping to have it repaired next week is my understanding. However, talk about untimely inconvenience. I am providing a national training session for the company I work for next week for 400 employees. The sessions are from 9am - 5pm. I cannot pick up my kids next week. I am not sure what I am going to do!!!
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Accused Walmart shoplifter couldn’t stay quiet
CCREE5191
Friday, March 5, 2010: 7:45 am

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Hilarious!
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tellthetruth
Thursday, March 4, 2010: 6:10 pm

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If the other people can take that road
maybe you can watch them and see
how they are doing it and then try it !
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Accused Walmart shoplifter couldn’t stay quiet
lb1955
Thursday, March 4, 2010: 4:11 pm

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As Ron White says, "you can't fix stupid!"
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Clowning around with Dr. Seuss
phoneman
Thursday, March 4, 2010: 2:24 pm

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What a great picture. I love the expression on these kids faces.
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itsmedb55
Thursday, March 4, 2010: 2:14 pm

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i am wondering when your child misses to much school why you are charged with unlawful transaction wirh a minor. this sounds horrible, and could keep you from getting a job. who came up with that?????can't it be called unlawful truency or something like that? help me out with this logic.
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dhughes
Thursday, March 4, 2010: 12:25 pm

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No, the ONLY way to my home is Dry Fork Creek (through the creek) I used to take White Conkwright, but now that the bridge is gone I can't. Other people on Dry Fork can, with the exception of my family and the neighbors to our left. If I had an alternative, I wouln't complain about the road being closed!!!!
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Diaper dandy?
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Thursday, March 4, 2010: 11:18 am

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What a great picture
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Grand jury to hear case involving abuse of 4-month-old
CCREE5191
Thursday, March 4, 2010: 10:04 am

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He didn't take the child for medical attention because he was afraid he would get in trouble? I really hope that he gets the max sentence for hurting this innocent little one.
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tellthetruth
Wednesday, March 3, 2010: 3:03 pm

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The article gave you several other roads which are available to you,
let them fix the bridege then you can go back to your old route.
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dhughes
Wednesday, March 3, 2010: 2:01 pm

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How long before the bridge is replaced? I now must drive through the creek to go to work. This is unacceptable!! There has to be a different solution. I understand the bridge is dangerous and needs to be replaced..but, how would you feel if you had to drive through a creek to go to work, or town?? When the creeks rise with Spring rains ( look at next weeks forecast! ) how will I earn a living? God forbid if we need a Life Squad or Fire truck. As it is the Post Office refuses to deliver our mail because it only affects "TWO HOMES"..well, that's all fine and good except I work from 7 to 5 in a different county and the Post Office is open 9 to 4:45!! Glad it's election time!!
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Child’s death is ruled a homicide
YORKBERRY
Wednesday, March 3, 2010: 7:55 am

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They were supposed to reveal a suspect on Monday I thought.
Still have not heard anything more about it, I sure hope they
dont just drop the investigation and never find out what happened
to this child. My heart just breaks for her! No child should be treated
this way, EVER!
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Circuit Court for Feb. 26
SunshineStamper
Tuesday, March 2, 2010: 2:08 am

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OMG!!!OMG!!! iS IT FREE REIN FOR THE MILLER'S TO STEAL SOME MORE??!!??!!
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Child’s death is ruled a homicide
itsmedb55
Monday, March 1, 2010: 2:51 pm

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i am glad that our children are going to eat better but what about P.E. in our schools i think they should all have to exercise in school.we did when we were in school and it didn't hurt us.
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Child’s death is ruled a homicide
itsmedb55
Friday, February 26, 2010: 2:08 pm

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has there been an arrest yet? does any one know why it is taking so long to reveal the murderer of this little angel.
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Imgone!!
Thursday, February 25, 2010: 8:54 pm

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Kinda strange the child was taken earlier in the week to the hospital for unexplained bruises . Mon should know where they came from, I would know if it were my child, Gut feelings are usually correct ,,,,,,,
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Child’s death is ruled a homicide
itsmedb55
Thursday, February 25, 2010: 2:13 pm

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thanks imgone i noticed that too i wonder if any of the officials noticed it.i hope my gut feeling is wrong.
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Child’s death is ruled a homicide
Alerxst
Thursday, February 25, 2010: 11:27 am

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Jesus went to Powell County last Friday and rescued that baby.
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Child’s death is ruled a homicide
sargeantbooger
Thursday, February 25, 2010: 10:48 am

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The child protective services in KY specifically Winchester and Powell county are a joke! We have a baby that has never been taken care of by the parents and there has been multiple reports filed against them; however 1 year later the child is still in that drug infested home. I can't believe they keep letting these children die! I would lose my mind if anything ever happened to the child I'm talking about, but that's exactly where this case is headed if the state doesn't get involved! Why wait and say if only they had stepped in sooner all these kids might have had a chance.... It's just frustrating and heartbreaking.
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Police nab suspected shoplifter after chase
tellthetruth
Thursday, February 25, 2010: 8:12 am

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If he hadnt been drunk they would never have caught him !!
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Police nab suspected shoplifter after chase
bluegrass
Thursday, February 25, 2010: 5:59 am

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Yeehaw!Front page news of a MAJOR crime!
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UK Basketball: Bledsoe learning to put team first
jwc58
Wednesday, February 24, 2010: 10:52 pm

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Are you guys watching the same games I am? Eric Bledsoe could be so good, but it is easy to see when his switch flips and the "I've got to show the scouts what I can do" light goes on. Dribbling into double and triple team situations, continually forcing the action too much - - - and we are nearly 30 games into the season. Tha't's 15 hours of college level competition. He has GOT to improve if we have any chance to get as far as we can go.
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Imgone!!
Wednesday, February 24, 2010: 8:05 pm

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I was watching this on TV and all the Family had tears in their eyes ,, except for the mom,,,,,,,, bless the child.
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Police nab suspected shoplifter after chase
gjaux
Wednesday, February 24, 2010: 5:46 pm

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I would think officer PAT ADKINS should be awarded the "MEDAL OF VALOR"!
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Child’s death is ruled a homicide
tellthetruth
Wednesday, February 24, 2010: 4:44 pm

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When the murderer is found, let me spend ten minuts alone with them !
I will save the state lots of money on a trial !!!
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New GRCHS step closer to becoming reality
citizen
Wednesday, February 24, 2010: 11:32 am

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Thank you Chateaudad42 you mentioned fact not fiction, unfortunately the system is geared for the average person to lose no matter how it is phrased. I continue to say that all of the above has been a cash cow and will not repair any financial problems because we are to far gone we have lost sight.
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Child’s death is ruled a homicide
hello
Wednesday, February 24, 2010: 11:28 am

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This is so sad. I have two daughters and I could not imagine this. Why haven't there been arrests? I heard that the child had been in and out of hospital with bruising. Where were the social workers? Everyone needs to remember, children can not protect themselves and it's up to us to do that. It's sad that even some parents are the ones hurting children.
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New GRCHS step closer to becoming reality
Chateaudad42
Tuesday, February 23, 2010: 9:29 pm

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I have my doubts that even after the county raises our property taxes (in a declining property market), the city nearly doubles the sewage rates, and both continue to find ways to fund themselves pay increases (don't get me started on the pension for life program), that the local government and school board will be able to provide my children with a decent lunch program, actual text books, or a place to learn free from drugs or daily fist fights in the school's foyer. But in the end, they will all have "equal access" to even less than they have now. It is the system that is broken, not the building and not the kids.
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Energy, education dominate at session’s mid-point
rosebud5
Tuesday, February 23, 2010: 12:30 pm

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Is it just me or have I been seeing tooooooo many articles from politicians telling us what a great job they are doing?! Oh, must be election year!
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Rumor has it: Dropped word in schedule sets off panic
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Monday, February 22, 2010: 1:38 am

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"These explanations sound more like lame attempts to put a pretty picture over the truth."

& this my friend is the GRC way....
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New GRCHS step closer to becoming reality
Cards_Fan
Monday, February 22, 2010: 1:20 am

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Great. Now we can have an even more expensive school that STILL won't have enough books for the kids. Tell me, will THIS school have enough books for everyone?
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The dark side of freedom of speech
Cards_Fan
Monday, February 22, 2010: 1:17 am

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Why would you even make an article to give notice to those who did this? They did it on topix as well and it was reported and removed, not posted in the Winchester Sun for those to see that terrible deed in order toget attention worked. Shame on you Winchester Sun for reporting this.
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